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Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 12:48 AM
Through word, song, or written text, Language is by far the single most widely used form of communication on the planet. In fact, one could argue that it's the core-most glue that holds our societies together.
As unifying as language can be for us as people though, it sometimes serves to separate us as well. With thousands of different languages to choose from, often times we may find ourselves in a social situation where we don't understand each other because of language barriers. And that makes me sad.
Because of this, I have a suggestion that would solve this troublesome problem.
We should all speak the same language.
Well, it's a simple enough solution, but what's not so easy, is actually putting it into effect. Even harder than that is picking one language above all others. But I think I can help here too.
It should be a language that's accessible to all, and already in use by a vast number of people. Below is a list of the 5 most popular languages in order of which are spoken by the largest number of people to the least:
Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
English (480 million)
Spanish (320 million)
Russian (285 million)
French (265 million)
But now that I think of it, what really makes a language accessible isn't the number of people who speak it specifically, it's more an ideal of how far-spread the language is. I mean, let's face it, Chinese may be spoken by a great deal more people than other languages, but it's usefulness outside of China isn't nearly that great. So here's a revised list, this time, in order of how many different countries speak the language as opposed to how many individual people speak it:
English (115)
French (35)
Arabic (24)
Spanish (20)
Russian (16)
There...that's better. As you can see here, English is used in 3 times as many places as any other one language. Now that's accessibility. But thinking again once more, accessibility isn't the be-all end-all in what would make the perfect human language, either.
So, there's only one thing to do: I'll use my vast experience of having visited only one foreign country, never learning any second languages myself, and C-average High School education to review and rate each of the languages on both lists in random order. (I feel it should be me doing the rating because I'm an English speaking American, and as such, my objectiveness is unquestionable.) Here goes:
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Russian: Sure, it's a great language. If you're a Commie! Plus, it's fucking horrible sounding. Speaking Russian is the verbal equivalent of throwing up in someone's ear. One language that sounds as bad as Russian is Klingon. And you can guess what type of person takes the time to learn Klingon. Let's face it, folks; who needs a language spoken by vodkaholics and people standing in line for free bread.
Score: 2
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French: Oh la la, the language of love. It's also the language of whiny dissidents and backstabbers. It sounds wonderful compared to Russian, though. It rolls off the tongue like sweet music. Which is fitting because the French people are known for their beautiful works of art. Speaking French means that you can tell someone you fucked their mom in such a wonderfully, sounding way that they might actually thank you for it. But ultimately, there's a reason mimes are so popular there. Even the French themselves hate listening to each other.
Score: 3.5
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Arabic: One of the oldest still spoken languages around, most of the other languages on this list have derived many of their common words directly from this language. However, much like Sanskrit, I think it's served it's practical usefulness ages ago. And not to be out done, Arabic is by far the worst fucking noise on the planet. Russian, doesn't even come close. I would rather poke-fuck myself in the ear hole with a number 2 pencil until I had to pick up sign language than listen to my favorite singer hacking up lung-lyrics in this god awful train wreck of verbiage.
Score: 1
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Mandarin Chinese: It shocked me to learn that Chinese was such a popular language with such a vast amount of people. It shocked me because I've never been to China. Honestly, if I had continued my list of languages spoken in the most countries, China wouldn't have even been in the top 15. Apparently, the only thing Chinese has going for it is the fact that those people fuck like rabbits. You must not be able to walk down a single street in China without getting hit by a random flying shot of semen.
Mandarin Chinese is what happens to a race of people who close themselves off from the rest of civilization. It's an overly complicated language that still uses glyphs to form words. Like Ancient Egyptian, only it's still in use because Chang and Ming don't want to learn anything from the rest of us "outsiders"
Score 2
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Spanish: Here's a language I can relate to. It's one of the easiest to pick up, mainly because all it is, is a jumble of words derived from other languages. Like a scumbag stealing your hubcaps, Spanish speaking people have been ripping off words from folks for hundreds of years.
And they dumb it down to make it more accessible in the process to boot. Spanish is to Latin as Ebonics is to English. What makes it even more fantastic is that what results is actually ten times better than Latin. One problem though, Speaking Spanish somehow magically makes you want to wear a wife beater and start selling drugs. I'm not sure what the real culprit is behind this phenomena, but it's affect is quite noticeable in the U.S.
All in all, not a bad language. And hey, wife beaters may be a horrible fashion no-no, but think of the extra money you'll rake in from the drugs.
Score 4.5
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English: At or near the top on both of my lists, English is both widespread and popular among vast majorities of people. What would you expect from a group of people who treat other races as if they were "the help". The English have a favorite past time. It's called "populate a foreign land with our rejects and then fuck with them on a regular basis"
Love 'em or hate 'em, English speaking people are in a land somewhere near by, teaching "savages" how to think and feel properly, or taxing people who they've decided to milk for lunch money. English as a language is the equivalent of the high school bully that nobody likes but everyone knows. Ask any American Native what he thinks of English speaking people. But make sure you ask him in English, because that's probably the only language you and he share.
Score 4.5
Well it seems we have a tie. English and Spanish are both heavyweights that seem a tight match for each other.
Spanish has a conglomeration of languages that fall under it including but not limited to Puerto Rican, Mexican, and Honduran which would make finding a universal language within the language another task in and of itself. However, English is pretty much the same here as it is in any English speaking country. That, coupled with the fact that English was higher on both lists, will have to serve as the tie breaker. English wins.
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And there you have it folks; now all we have to do is break the news to all the other non-English speaking people of the world. We can finally settle this troublesome language barrier once and for all and get back to insulting each other more efficiently.
The Saint
03-17-2006, 02:01 AM
Good luck with convincing the extreme right Arabs with that English stuff.
The world is big, contains a lot of people and cultures, a lot of different thoughts. A language that would be spoken throughout the whole world must be a language that is accepted by those who speak it. Imagine that in your eyes the Russian people or the Russian government is bad. How keen would you be to talk Russian? The language must be positive related in order to be accepted.
It's a very difficult matter and I'm sure that you won't get everyone on the 'one language' wagon.
Still, a nice idea but in my opinion a bit idealistic.
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InfernalPenguin
03-17-2006, 10:47 AM
what about cultures that have untranslatable thing? they might aswell keep their language. english is widely spread though and a lot of people have it as a second lang. that is how the lang barrier needs to be approached, by teaching everyone at least 2 languages
Tittyluvr
03-17-2006, 11:10 AM
A good argument for worldwide linguistic unity. The only problem is how do we expect other nations to adopt English when it's rapidly losing footing in our own country?
E^D Crow
03-17-2006, 11:14 AM
We should all speak Esperanto.
E^D
InfernalPenguin
03-17-2006, 11:15 AM
thats y u make it a second or third language to everyone and have nativeenglish speakers speak a second/third language as well
Tittyluvr
03-17-2006, 11:30 AM
thats y u make it a second or third language to everyone and have nativeenglish speakers speak a second/third language as well
As an English speaking Caucasian born in the USA, I refuse to adopt a second or third language to facilitate communication with others. Even aliens from the far reaches of the galaxy must learn English should they ever venture into our atmosphere.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 11:48 AM
The second/third language thing is kind of self defeating. The goal would be to have one. Not two, or three. Having everyone speak the same second language would be a step in the right direction, but then you'd still have countries with signs and directions and other types of media written in their native tongue. If you're lucky, they might add in subtitles and consider the second universal language, but that's expecting people to be considerate, and that's not practical by a long shot.
Esperanto, while not disliked by anyone in particular, has no accessability and is spoken by an extremely small number of people, currently. A large part of my decision making process dealt with how large an ass pain it would be to put into action. Teaching 99% of the world's population a new language would represent considerable ass pain.
With any choice that's made, there are going to be large numbers of people who will oppose it, and refuse to accept it. This is where some well-placed, animalistic, grotesque bloodshed would be recommended. You can't make an omlete without breaking a few eggs, and you can't flush the rights of an entire countries citizens without breaking a few spirits. (And necks, and legs, and hip bones, and...well you get the point) When it's all said and done, they'll be bitching, to be sure. But they'll be doing it in the universal language.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 11:52 AM
Also, not to be outdone, I speak English. And because I'm fucking lazy, I want everyone else to as well. I'm willing to put your life in danger fighting wars over this concept. But this would all go alot easier if everyone would just accept my awesome plan.
buddha
03-17-2006, 07:45 PM
Also, not to be outdone, I speak English. And because I'm fucking lazy, I want everyone else to as well. I'm willing to put your life in danger fighting wars over this concept. But this would all go alot easier if everyone would just accept my awesome plan.
Your "awesome plan" stinks of Orwelian diatribe.
This has to be one of the silliest articles you have written so far.
You're not expected to be a success all the time, proven by this article.
You make nothing but generalized opinions on what YOU think, completely unresearched and not even clearly thought out.
Case in point #1
"Russian: Sure, it's a great language. If you're a Commie!"
The slavic languages were around long before Marx or Lenin hit the stage.
What does communism have to do with the Russian language? This is only connected by association. Nothing more.
So, if you want to speak Chinese, Spanish or Korean, you should be a Commie?
#2
"With thousands of different languages to choose from....."
We don't have thousands of languages to choose from at birth, but we certainly do as a second language.
Learning a second or third language is a way of showing your respects for that particular culture, that you took the time to open the books and learn it.
Language in also learning the culture as well, not just vocabulary and grammar.
#3
"We should all speak the same language."
English is already the international language of choice. What exactly is it that you're bitching about?
I agree with you, we need one language to use for communicating with, but to unify one language for all to use would eliminate whole cultures.
Remember, language also equates culture.
There are certain expressions that just cannot be translated accurately from one language into another, and that is one of the beauties of having different languages. Fucking English all day, every day? Boring.
#4
"But thinking again once more, accessibility isn't the be-all end-all in what would make the perfect human language, either."
There simply is not a one perfect language, but one in mind does come close.
For an international language, I would choose Japanese, and not because of some bigoted remark that will come from a members lips like "you say that because you're a Jap lover".
Japanese is a very simple language to learn. It is a phonetic language, it has only one set of vowel sounds, it has the most logical written form in the world languages to date.
The Kanji represent the symbols they are meant to exactly and precisely.
It has it's limitations as well. I do not care for modern music sung in Japanese. Not good sounding. Not a very romantic language neither.
Now, what it does need is greater intonation for expressing feelings. They rely too much on the spoken word to portray an emotion, and not the voice itself.
The spelling of English is too erratic in its assignment of sounds and letters.
There are 44 phonemes with only 26 letters to represent those 44 sounds.
Any student who is unfamiliar with English will have to learn the difference in the pronunciation of the letter "c" as in "cat, watch and face".
Too difficult. Japanese does not have this sort of problem.
Accessibility would indeed be the "be-all end-all" without a doubt.
English is easily accessible. Movies, music, TV, books. It's everywhere, within easy reach.
Its early begginings became accessible with its British brutal colonization of other cultures. It them progressed further with American technology.
#5
"French: Oh la la, the language of love. It's also the language of whiny dissidents and backstabbers."
Oh right.........NOT. Ok, only the French are accused of this. Nope, no backstabbing whiney dissidents in corporate America.
Jesus, what fucking bigotry. Way to go, Mr. America.
"Even the French themselves hate listening to each other."
How did you come up with this wiener? You have been to France? You are speaking from personal experience? Please post your source on this. I would like to read up on that.
#5
"Arabic.....blah blah....blah"
Spoken like a typical, spoon fed brain washed TV loving American.
By the oldest languages if not THE oldest language. It still seems to fit those people who still speak it just fine.
#6
"Apparently, the only thing Chinese has going for it is the fact that those people fuck like rabbits. You must not be able to walk down a single street in China without getting hit by a random flying shot of semen. "
O' rely? So the only contribution China has made to the world community is the amount of sucking and fucking? You're a goober. Speaking again from ignorance. Stick with what you know, and not with what you don't know, Gomer.
#6
"Speaking Spanish somehow magically makes you want to wear a wife beater and start selling drugs."
How utterly baseless and stupid. Spanish is a European language. Again, the American ethnocentric view point of the world. What ever is happening in the U.S. just HAS to be the same elsewhere in the world.
"Like a scumbag stealing your hubcaps, Spanish speaking people have been ripping off words from folks for hundreds of years. "
Please cite examples here. What language has not borrowed from other languages and cultures?
Are you referring to Castillian Spanish or Mexican Spanish?
#7
English (British)..........
"It's called "populate a foreign land with our rejects and then fuck with them on a regular basis"
You forgot the part were they want to lend a helping hand by educating the savages, then raping them of their natural resources, then leaving them behind in ruins.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 07:53 PM
As usual buddha, you completely missed the humor and went straight into "My morals are superior to yours" mode. I didn't even bother reading past the first two lines because it's all shit that I've heard from you before.
buddha
03-17-2006, 08:15 PM
As usual buddha, you completely missed the humor and went straight into "My morals are superior to yours" mode. I didn't even bother reading past the first two lines because it's all shit that I've heard from you before.
Then you're a weak fucking yellow coward. Fuck off.
There was nothing funny about it at all. It sucked.
Don't fucking run away little rabbit with the "my morals are superior to yours" bullshit.
If you said you read only the first two lines, how did you come up with this line?
You're a liar. You read it. You know it. I know you did.
You are saying that there was no truth to anything you typed? It was all knee slapping wit?
Oh master scholar that you aren't.
The real shame if it is, you had a chance to learn a second language, but your lazy fat ass didn't even try. Talk about the "my morals are superior to yours".
So, off you go to America, and soon you will regret not picking up one fucking book to teach yourself Japanese.
Typical American. You travel the world, yet you learn nothing.
Buggar off already, dweeb.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 08:24 PM
buddha, if anyone besides you wants to discuss the article I wrote, I'll do it. But I won't sit here and banter with you about what most people know was written in jest to begin with.
However, if what you really want to talk about is "My lazy fat typical american ass" then start a thread. I'll be happy to have it out with you.
InfernalPenguin
03-17-2006, 08:33 PM
itis not studpid or backtracking to have everyone speaking 2 languages
i grew up speaking 3 languages. it helps make it to whereeveryone can communicate witheach other withouthaving to give up their native language. also, english is a hard language to learn, hell most americans cant speak it the way its supposed to be spoken. the purpose oflanguage is communication. having the native language and a second language helps the communication process. and face it sometimes its hard to get and idea out in english when it is much easier to sayit a more natural language.
buddha
03-17-2006, 08:42 PM
buddha, if anyone besides you wants to discuss the article I wrote, I'll do it. But I won't sit here and banter with you about what most people know was written in jest to begin with.
However, if what you really want to talk about is "My lazy fat typical american ass" then start a thread. I'll be happy to have it out with you.
You're an idiot. You don't have any other response, well, because there is no way for you to counterpoint anything I wrote, therefore due to your lack of commenting to the post, I am completely correct, and you are completely wrong. No one as of yet has clearly responded with how fucking funny your clearly are not.
Way to go, Sherlock.
Yawning
03-17-2006, 09:43 PM
I disagree with you Bud,
I saw the entire speil as a humorous post.
I myself speak English as a first language, althought I do speak fluent German and a little French and Russian.
Not one of the comments I found offensive, as I knew they were all in jest...
...hell just look at the website/forum your posting on! Heheh.
I seriously think you need to reconsider eating the foods which give you such high blood pressure bud, it was a joke, but for all you assumed knowledge on this lingquistic subject, you seem like a very unnaproachable individual.
No matter what language we share, or in some cases don't, I would prefer not to communicate with individuals such as yourself, however for the purpose of this post we shall discount that idea.
You have some valid points in regards to the rebuttal of the initial post, however, It is no different to sitting down and nit picking at all the little anecdotes, analogies and innuendos that some of the finest comedians in the world have used to entertain us.
If the intital post existed on an acedemic forum, then I would say, you have a valid point Bud, but unfortunately you come across to myself as a disgruntled punter to this forum who has obviously missed the point.
Notwithstanding that I read on the title page this forum was a place to vent ones distain, which I must say you did with great conviction, but sadly I have to say, I know your type. Nothing makes you happier than something or someone to whinge about. The opportunity to shout to the world, "I am right, you are wrong!!" To look to your peers for confirmation that what you are saying and doing is indeed justified. Prehaps to you it is! but for the rest of us that don't live our lives day to day just looking for an argument (even though my post now probably appears this way heh) I guess we can appreciate satire.
So in conclusion I hope this post gives you a valuable insight to not only mine, but your own persona. Lighten up a little. :)
Also just so we are all clear on this, my intention has never been to flame you, only to express my observations of this thread.
... and no, I am not an American! (Not that there is anything wrong with that ;))
Yawning.
03-17-2006, 09:53 PM
Oh, I forgot to add.
For as much as I enjoyed reading chapped's post, I would hate to live in a world with one language. I mean seriously how bloody boring would that be?
I like our planets cultural diversity, and I especially love my own country for that same reason.
It is not my birth country, but it is where I choose to call home, for the above-mentioned reason.
Cultural Diversity can only help us move forward in a world where the shadows of evil continue to cloud the minds of a vast array of cultures.
Tolerance is the only way, although I fear the world without a little humor!
Thanks for your time!
Yawning
03-17-2006, 10:02 PM
loL, I am Yawnings Flatmate. Yawning just prompted me to check this site out... You friggen n00bs, Yawning ur almost a bigger twat than that Buddar guy! I think we shud all comunicat wif clicks bleeps and whistles, like that wierd ass africn language, that would be kewl! hehehe Tossers.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 10:02 PM
You're an idiot. You don't have any other response, well, because there is no way for you to counterpoint anything I wrote
Ok, apparently, getting owned on this site by just about everyone you talk shit to hasn't taught you anything, nor has it instilled any humility. So for the sake of adding my name to the ever growing list of people who verbally mug you of your credibility, I'm going to respond. If for no other reason than because I'm bored.
Your "awesome plan" stinks of Orwelian diatribe.
This has to be one of the silliest articles you have written so far.
You're not expected to be a success all the time, proven by this article.
Out of the whole three articles I've written, I agree, it's the silliest. What's humorous to me though, is that it's coming from you. 9 out of 10 times you start a thread, you get your ass handed to you. And it's not because you're not good at flaming, momo. It's because you're fucking wrong 90% of the time.
You make nothing but generalized opinions on what YOU think, completely unresearched and not even clearly thought out.
I get the feeling I'm going to have to keep beating you over the head with the notion that it was written in jest. Call me crazy, but I'm sensing that you don't get that, and probably never will. Also, what did you expect me to do, make opinions based on what You think? Honestly, you're fucking stupid.
Case in point #1
"Russian: Sure, it's a great language. If you're a Commie!"
The slavic languages were around long before Marx or Lenin hit the stage.
What does communism have to do with the Russian language? This is only connected by association. Nothing more.
So, if you want to speak Chinese, Spanish or Korean, you should be a Commie?
Yes.
#2
"With thousands of different languages to choose from....."
We don't have thousands of languages to choose from at birth, but we certainly do as a second language.
Learning a second or third language is a way of showing your respects for that particular culture, that you took the time to open the books and learn it.
Language in also learning the culture as well, not just vocabulary and grammar.
Not only did you take my words out of context, you didn't even lift the whole sentence. And again, it was in jest. Get the joke? No? Too bad.
#3
"We should all speak the same language."
English is already the international language of choice. What exactly is it that you're bitching about?
I heavily suspect that if my article focused on making Japanese the official language of the world, I wouldn't be hearing any shit out of you. And therein lies the reason why I think you're a fucking putz.
I agree with you, we need one language to use for communicating with, but to unify one language for all to use would eliminate whole cultures.
Remember, language also equates culture.
There are certain expressions that just cannot be translated accurately from one language into another, and that is one of the beauties of having different languages. Fucking English all day, every day? Boring.
You: I stand for the rights of all cultures!
Me: Uhh, didn't you once say that America should be Nuked?
You: Shut up, I'm on my soap box here.
#4
"But thinking again once more, accessibility isn't the be-all end-all in what would make the perfect human language, either."
There simply is not a one perfect language, but one in mind does come close.
For an international language, I would choose Japanese, and not because of some bigoted remark that will come from a members lips like "you say that because you're a Jap lover".
Oh there's a fucking shock. I swear on my life that I'm picking your rant apart as I'm reading it for the first time. This means that when I wrote, "I heavily suspect that if my article focused on making Japanese the official language of the world, I wouldn't be hearing shit out of you.", I hadn't yet read this section of your text-spasm. This is exactly why I didn't bother to read your dribble in the first place. I know what weak shit is going to drop out of your mishapped head before you say it.
Japanese is a very simple language to learn. It is a phonetic language, it has only one set of vowel sounds, it has the most logical written form in the world languages to date.
The Kanji represent the symbols they are meant to exactly and precisely.
It has it's limitations as well. I do not care for modern music sung in Japanese. Not good sounding. Not a very romantic language neither.
Now, what it does need is greater intonation for expressing feelings. They rely too much on the spoken word to portray an emotion, and not the voice itself.
Me: Are you done yet, the guys want their soap box back.
You: ...Not by a long shot. And furthermore....
The spelling of English is too erratic in its assignment of sounds and letters.
There are 44 phonemes with only 26 letters to represent those 44 sounds.
Any student who is unfamiliar with English will have to learn the difference in the pronunciation of the letter "c" as in "cat, watch and face".
Too difficult. Japanese does not have this sort of problem.
Uhh, give it up. Japanese didn't even make the list. Know why? Because no one except Japanese people speak it. Face it, more people speak fucking Portuguese than Japanese. Also there's like four different Japanese dialects, so even if it was on par with English, which it isn't, it would lose to English in the long run just like Spanish did, because then you'd have to decide which form of Japanese you'd use.
Accessibility would indeed be the "be-all end-all" without a doubt.
English is easily accessible. Movies, music, TV, books. It's everywhere, within easy reach.
Its early begginings became accessible with its British brutal colonization of other cultures. It them progressed further with American technology.
....buddha? ......the article was a joke. ....let it go.
#5
"French: Oh la la, the language of love. It's also the language of whiny dissidents and backstabbers."
Oh right.........NOT. Ok, only the French are accused of this. Nope, no backstabbing whiney dissidents in corporate America.
Jesus, what fucking bigotry. Way to go, Mr. America.
"Even the French themselves hate listening to each other."
How did you come up with this wiener? You have been to France? You are speaking from personal experience? Please post your source on this. I would like to read up on that.
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Yawning
03-17-2006, 10:02 PM
Hahah yawning I registered this name b4 you, suck shit!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Da Real Yawning
03-17-2006, 10:08 PM
Hahah yawning I registered this name b4 you, suck shit!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Your a knob!!
Well said Chapped Ass, and I did appreciate the humour! and it was humour.
I never once thought your were serious about the notion of a unified language!
Keep the satire coming mate!!
buddha
03-17-2006, 10:54 PM
blah blah
I KNOW it was a fucking joke, asshole.
I purposely made my post as stupid as it was to let you know I don't appreciate your examples of 'humility' like the "mutton-head" bullshit that seem to be flung in my direction in others posts.
Granted, we have differing political ideologies, but no need to degrade my whole persona on that.
I have refrained from responding in kind to your wise ass remarks you seem to plant throughout the forum.
Kindly keep your comments about me to yourself, unless otherwise instigated by yours truely, Mr. Humble man.
That one last night was the last straw. I may have insulted your politics, but I have never insulted you directly nor indirectly until as of recent, so you can stop with the pretentious 'humility' crap.
Chapped Ass
03-17-2006, 11:14 PM
I KNOW it was a fucking joke, asshole.
I purposely made my post as stupid as it was to let you know I don't appreciate your examples of 'humility' like the "mutton-head" bullshit that seem to be flung in my direction in others posts.
Granted, we have differing political ideologies, but no need to degrade my whole persona on that.
I have refrained from responding in kind to your wise ass remarks you seem to plant throughout the forum.
Kindly keep your comments about me to yourself, unless otherwise instigated by yours truely, Mr. Humble man.
That one last night was the last straw. I may have insulted your politics, but I have never insulted you directly nor indirectly until as of recent, so you can stop with the pretentious 'humility' crap.
Yeah, I got the feeling this was more about a personal issue and not about this article in particular. That's why I suggested that you start a thread as opposed to hashing this garbage out here. But so be it.
Political views are one thing, but you've made off color remarks about the American military on more than one occasion. Sure, you weren't addressing me at the time, but if I said something foolish like "All n*ggers are fucking worthless." Would it matter who I was addressing?
I submit that it would not. You'll note that I didn't start talking shit about you on this website until you started making generalizations about the people I live and work with. Now, I'm not Kill, so I can often be more forgiving and understanding. But it doesn't mean I'm going to let you run your mouth un-checked forever either.
Yes, I've pulled your name out of the ether on occasion to make a point or to slam you. And to that I say: What do you expect? You generate intolerance, and start threads on occasion with the single purpose of starting controversy. And I can respect that, but to sit here and play the "wounded puppy" when folks like me react to it is just illogical.
If you feel the need to respond to this, please, fork it. None of this has shit to do with language or my article and doesn't belong here.
Stunt
03-18-2006, 10:45 AM
Language is by far the single most widely used form of communication on the planet. In fact, one could argue that it's the core-most glue that holds our societies together.
Okay, first of all, your idea my friend, is not new. In fact, it's an extremely old movement that's been on the way to unification for hundreds of years.
To correct you though, in your quote (posted above), "one could argue," actually one can't. There are two things that define a society, language is one of them. Culture is the other. Any sociologist knows this, so feel free to say it like you know exactly what you're talking about, instead of a, "I think this is right," attitude.
Next, look up topics about the New World Order. Some call it a conspiracy, some see it happening and vouche that it's the truth. To view links in this forum your post count must be 10 or greater. Your post count is 0 momentarily. that should keep all of you entertained for hours.
Utah Guy
03-19-2006, 09:45 PM
A good argument for worldwide linguistic unity. The only problem is how do we expect other nations to adopt English when it's rapidly losing footing in our own country?
That's a very good point... damned spanish speakers!!! and damned government!!! we're too busy making the rest of the world learn english to even notice the fact that in 15 years, we'll all be speaking spanish! [/sarcastic humor]
On a related note, nothing pisses me off more than hearing ignorant PC retards spout off about how "The U.S. doesn't have an official language". At the time our goverment was created, there were at least 10 different languages spoken by the different groups of settlers here. Yet all of our historic documents are in one language... English. Would someone please explain to me how these groups of people who spoke only spanish, dutch, german, finnish, etc, managed to get screwed so badly as to not even have ONE document written in their native tongue? It's because they all agreed that we needed one unifying language for our country, and english is the language that was chosen.. However, these brave men fucked up. They didn't realize that 200 years later, some fucking dipship was going to file a lawsuit because they didn't realize that COMMON SENSE does not prevail in understanding exactly what our national language was! Fuck anyone who says the US doesn't have an official language. Go ask John Hancock if it does or doesn't.
Stunt
03-20-2006, 08:16 AM
badutahboy - show me where, in writing, it states the the United States of America has the official national language as English. There is no document expressing that. Yes, all other documents were in English, but that is because when they were being drawn up, there were more Englishmen here than persay French or Germans. That changed later, but at teh time of the writtings, it was like that. Basically, that's to say, until there is an action passed in Congress about America's national language being strictly english, Chinese and Spanish will have a fairly dominant section. Yet I wish you a good day, even though you insulted people without really doing any research... so I guess you mightaswell just stay off the soapbox, okay pumpkin?
Utah Guy
03-20-2006, 09:33 AM
hahahaha retard, you missed the whole point... At the time of the American Revolution, there were settlers from Germany, Denmark, Spain, England, Scotland, Ireland, Italy, Finland, and many other nations. Sure, a large percentage were from England and as such, spoke english, but it was not the majority of the population, nor was it their "right" to force all these other people to learn their language, when we didnt even have a country to call our own yet. The simple fact is, ALL of these groups agreed that English was the language that our country should use, and so it became our national language. These people didn't put it in writing because they didn't think they needed to. They thought common sense would prevail and that we wouldn't come to a point where freedom had created a generation of lawsuit happy, lazy dumb fucks. It's not in writing, because it really shouldn't HAVE to be.
Allow me to state my point differently... Assuming, as you say, that it's english because we were the majority at the time... They still stomped all over the rights of all those other settlers who didn't speak english, so why the fuck do we owe illegal immigrants any more consideration today than they gave legal settlers 200 years ago?
delduwath
03-24-2006, 03:53 AM
One language to rule them all....? Wrong and stupid ideea. On this one i totally agree with buddha. I my self know other two languages, besides my native one, romanian, and now I'm trying to learn japanese, a very easy language I might say. A one-spoked language world is boring as hell. One question for you Chapped Ass, how would you like to give away your language for an another?
hyrct
03-24-2006, 06:09 AM
I am a CHINESE . I am a girl.
I am 15-year-old.
I am a student.
I want to communicate with you.
Please answer me.
MY English is too bad.
I hope you will help me.
How kind you are!!!!!!
Tittyluvr
03-24-2006, 10:25 AM
I am a CHINESE . I am a girl.
I am 15-year-old.
I am a student.
I want to communicate with you.
Please answer me.
MY English is too bad.
I hope you will help me.
How kind you are!!!!!!
Herro.
Chapped A's Mom
03-26-2006, 01:55 AM
Honestly, I don't know where my son comes up with these predjudiced opinions. I thought I raised him better than that.......
I am, however, very happy he is back in the good old US of A where we can speak our minds in English - whether it is just bullshit or not.
Besides I really don't want to know what those foreign, commie speaking assholes are saying in their savage tongues when I am within hearing range. I just know those bastards are all talking about me and it really pisses me off!
zhenemooth
03-27-2006, 04:37 PM
I've always felt that English would one-day become a universal language. And I believe your statistics on the amount of english speaking people is off. 450 million is the amount of native English speakers; 900 million is closer to the amount of people able to speak the language.
Morbid Fantasy
11-23-2006, 11:54 AM
Also, not to be outdone, I speak English. And because I'm fucking lazy, I want everyone else to as well. I'm willing to put your life in danger fighting wars over this concept. But this would all go alot easier if everyone would just accept my awesome plan.
i share this view, being scots english isnt our native language but one thats been bred into us over the many hundreds of years. and its the only language i know with the exception of some german, which wouldnt go down too well when socialising with my english-speaking counterparts.
as much as i hate england, i've got to accept english as my primary language.
cadjas
11-25-2006, 08:46 PM
nice post....i bet a lotta people relly take it seriously
Belinda
12-07-2006, 08:41 AM
yeah english duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
backwoodsbabe31
12-07-2006, 01:11 PM
I am not so much worried about what the rest of the world speaks. I would just like to see our country speaking one language (English) again. You buy something from the store, and you have to surf through three of four instruction books before you finally get to the English version.
Sexy_Emma
02-15-2007, 12:21 PM
*applauds* brava on your conclusion, however, I think you forgot one little eensy weensy but ever so crucial little tiny detail: WHO THE FUCK is gonna teach MORE THAN 5/6 of the world ENGLISH? HMM?
Pissmonger
02-16-2007, 09:08 AM
I think we should send everyone who isn't like me to an extermination camp. except the hot chicks.
Suzie
02-16-2007, 10:08 AM
*applauds* brava on your conclusion, however, I think you forgot one little eensy weensy but ever so crucial little tiny detail: WHO THE FUCK is gonna teach MORE THAN 5/6 of the world ENGLISH? HMM?MORE than 5/6??? Are you fucking high?
According to the World Factbook and the Guinness World Records English is currently the 2nd most commonly spoken language in the world. It has over 500 million speakers. It is behind only Mandarin, which has over 1 billion speakers. English is today the third most widely distributed language as a first spoken language in the world, after Mandarin and perhaps Hindi (see the ranking). Approximately 600 million people use the various dialects of English regularly. About 377 million people use one of the versions of English as their mother tongue, and a similar number of people use one of them as their second or foreign language as well. English is used widely in either the public or private sphere in more than 100 countries all over the world. In addition, the language has occupied a prominent place in international academic and business communities.
Learn to fucking read and maybe do some research before you open your dick licker again. Fucking moron.
Chameleon56
09-09-2008, 04:46 PM
I'm learning shit you don't learn in High school and some colleges. lol go chapped ass and suzie for the info update
PinDick
09-12-2008, 06:14 AM
yeah cause then all our lazy arses would have to lean it, how stupid
CherryCherryBoomBoom
01-15-2009, 09:25 PM
Yay Spanish && English
"hay un fiesta en mis pantalones"
;)
58mike
01-16-2009, 06:42 PM
This sounds kind of lame, but what a great thread by chapped ass. I could read this garbage all day (well, maybe an hour or so) and never lose interest in how others may respond. So much is this mindful of the feudalistic values once sinistered by all those who ruled Europe, it seems it has now simultaneously metamorphasized into a more linguistic form.
Personally, i've always felt that once we achieve a universal currency, it will then be obvious which lanquage rules them all.
Blue2
01-17-2009, 09:33 AM
I think we should all be silent
alena12
01-17-2009, 08:31 PM
And how many of the dumb bastards are actually fluent in the English language?
George W Bush not being the standard for fluency.
-guest-
04-24-2009, 03:53 PM
Latin derived from Rome is the ancestor of English, Italian, French, Catalan, Romanian, Spanish, and Portuguese.
Latin is the true language :)
clittielicker
04-25-2009, 07:09 AM
i think everyone should speak morse code. it's a universal language.
. . _ . . . _ _ . _ . _ . _
_ . _ _ _ _ _ . . _
reziarfg
04-26-2009, 08:17 AM
1337 593364 473, except we will write it in decimal but speak it in binary... really really fast
amy_doll
04-27-2009, 12:29 AM
i think everyone should speak morse code. it's a universal language.
. . _ . . . _ _ . _ . _ . _
_ . _ _ _ _ _ . . _
And its Samuel Morse's birthday today.
reziarfg
04-27-2009, 10:37 PM
And its Samuel Morse's birthday today.
Oh, how many things we learn from Google's homepage themes...
destiny'smommy
05-20-2009, 11:18 AM
Good idea but...if everyone spoke the same language, how would we insult people without them knowing it?
RetardedMunkey
05-28-2009, 06:19 AM
Im all for it, should be an easy transition for me.
Zaxaz787
06-05-2009, 06:05 PM
actions speak louder than words anyways....I can scream "I'm gonna fucking kill you bitch!!!!" but even if she understands every word she doesnt get the point quiet the same as she does when blacking out for the last time with my hands on her throat
Cadenceelise
06-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Im all for it, should be an easy transition for me.
Same here.
obama sux ass
06-10-2009, 10:13 PM
that language woukld be english
Cadenceelise
06-11-2009, 01:28 PM
Is the middle finger universal??
Zaxaz787
06-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Is the middle finger universal??
I understand it everywhere I go
obama sux ass
06-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Is the middle finger universal??
no in some countries like in china and japan the pinky finger is the middle finger
Zaxaz787
06-11-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm just gonna hold up all 5 fingers and therefore say fuck the world...that way no one feels left out
obama sux ass
06-11-2009, 07:11 PM
I'm just gonna hold up all 5 fingers and therefore say fuck the world...that way no one feels left out
that'll work just offend them all so no one feels left out
Shoot_To_Wound
06-11-2009, 08:25 PM
The human race should regress to a series of grunts and moans as a common means of communications. Life would be much more entertaining.
obama sux ass
06-11-2009, 10:33 PM
The human race should regress to a series of grunts and moans as a common means of communications. Life would be much more entertaining.
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Zaxaz787
06-12-2009, 08:00 PM
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fuck man...now I hafta worry about efficient offendage of cavefucks.....this world is too much work
Zaxaz787
06-12-2009, 08:02 PM
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this is my new wife....with life insurance polict
Zaxaz787
06-12-2009, 08:04 PM
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Zaxaz787
06-12-2009, 08:04 PM
hahahaha those Catholicks
Zaxaz787
06-12-2009, 08:06 PM
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where are the chunks? I hate is when peeps go "Im scared"
Shoot_To_Wound
06-12-2009, 08:48 PM
hahahaha those Catholicks
Earning Red Wings FTW!:bananacoc
obama sux ass
06-12-2009, 08:55 PM
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i hope thats ketchup
noyobi
06-12-2009, 09:48 PM
The real shame if it is, you had a chance to learn a second language, but your lazy fat ass didn't even try. Talk about the "my morals are superior to yours".
So, off you go to America, and soon you will regret not picking up one fucking book to teach yourself Japanese.
Typical American. You travel the world, yet you learn nothing.
Buggar off already, dweeb.
Typical American is it? What is a "typical American"?
FYI there is no "typical" American, I am an American, and have traveled extensively, it's been my experience that ignoring your environment and insisting on your own set of values as learned in the culture your raised in is not an "American" thing alone.
Your statement of "typical American" puts you in that same class.
Language is to a culture what art is to the observer. Visual, architectural, culinary, music, and many other things come together to form any given culture. The language in question is a formative process of how the people of the time perceived their world evolving from basic guttural noises to the languages of today. Most of the worlds languages came from common stocks. Over time they merge and evolve. Just as the “English” language spoken in America is as different to Brits as Mexican is to Spain, any language will evolve in a blink of the historical timeline. Within America, there are 6 primary variants of American, and multiple off shoots of those. Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southern (as in Texas/Oklahoma) Western, and Pacific Northwestern being the primary variants. To say there is a “typical American” is to say Brit, Aussie, S.African, Irish, etc are all the same when it comes to language and culture for that matter. Do you see how ludicrous that sounds?
Then there is the visual language of the body. Hand gestures, facial expressions etc. Pretty much the only universal visual sign is the middle finger fuck you, but even that has variants.
Wagging a finger at someone in a gesture of come over here in the states would hardly raise an eyebrow, but it could get you killed in the middle east as a for instance.
What really gets me is the stereo typing involved with your statement. Euro’s complain about Americans, Americans complain about Euro’s being arrogant. Wonder why that is? Maybe a simple fucking explanation would be better than a fuck you.
Contrary to a lot of opinions in America, I’ve meet some really nice people in France, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, Italy, and others. I’ve also meet a lot of assholes.
No one country has a corner on ignorance. England is certainly full of it’s share of arrogant asses who think their way is the only way just like any other country.
There is no one language better than another, as a matter of fact, it could be said that the language identifies with the people and it’s culture on levels most have never considered. Differences in how a given language is pronounced can be attributed to building materials of the time in that rock vs wood planks vs straw vs whatever the hell else the dwellings of the time were built with would reverberate with different tonal values and clarity. Stay around it long enough and it will evolve on its own if for no other reason than the people had to change the pronunciation in order to be understood. Even the difference’s in stone vs adobe Spain vs Mexico can attribute to what is now a significant difference between the two.
To sum it up, how much time have you spent in America that qualifies you to brand what is a “typical” American? I grew up here and cannot do that. so :THE_STFU_
obama sux ass
06-12-2009, 10:20 PM
Typical American is it? What is a "typical American"?
FYI there is no "typical" American, I am an American, and have traveled extensively, it's been my experience that ignoring your environment and insisting on your own set of values as learned in the culture your raised in is not an "American" thing alone.
Your statement of "typical American" puts you in that same class.
Language is to a culture what art is to the observer. Visual, architectural, culinary, music, and many other things come together to form any given culture. The language in question is a formative process of how the people of the time perceived their world evolving from basic guttural noises to the languages of today. Most of the worlds languages came from common stocks. Over time they merge and evolve. Just as the “English” language spoken in America is as different to Brits as Mexican is to Spain, any language will evolve in a blink of the historical timeline. Within America, there are 6 primary variants of American, and multiple off shoots of those. Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southern (as in Texas/Oklahoma) Western, and Pacific Northwestern being the primary variants. To say there is a “typical American” is to say Brit, Aussie, S.African, Irish, etc are all the same when it comes to language and culture for that matter. Do you see how ludicrous that sounds?
Then there is the visual language of the body. Hand gestures, facial expressions etc. Pretty much the only universal visual sign is the middle finger fuck you, but even that has variants.
Wagging a finger at someone in a gesture of come over here in the states would hardly raise an eyebrow, but it could get you killed in the middle east as a for instance.
What really gets me is the stereo typing involved with your statement. Euro’s complain about Americans, Americans complain about Euro’s being arrogant. Wonder why that is? Maybe a simple fucking explanation would be better than a fuck you.
Contrary to a lot of opinions in America, I’ve meet some really nice people in France, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, Italy, and others. I’ve also meet a lot of assholes.
No one country has a corner on ignorance. England is certainly full of it’s share of arrogant asses who think their way is the only way just like any other country.
There is no one language better than another, as a matter of fact, it could be said that the language identifies with the people and it’s culture on levels most have never considered. Differences in how a given language is pronounced can be attributed to building materials of the time in that rock vs wood planks vs straw vs whatever the hell else the dwellings of the time were built with would reverberate with different tonal values and clarity. Stay around it long enough and it will evolve on its own if for no other reason than the people had to change the pronunciation in order to be understood. Even the difference’s in stone vs adobe Spain vs Mexico can attribute to what is now a significant difference between the two.
To sum it up, how much time have you spent in America that qualifies you to brand what is a “typical” American? I grew up here and cannot do that. so :THE_STFU_
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sew watt
06-12-2009, 10:38 PM
Typical American is it? What is a "typical American"?
FYI there is no "typical" American, I am an American, and have traveled extensively, it's been my experience that ignoring your environment and insisting on your own set of values as learned in the culture your raised in is not an "American" thing alone.
Your statement of "typical American" puts you in that same class.
Language is to a culture what art is to the observer. Visual, architectural, culinary, music, and many other things come together to form any given culture. The language in question is a formative process of how the people of the time perceived their world evolving from basic guttural noises to the languages of today. Most of the worlds languages came from common stocks. Over time they merge and evolve. Just as the “English” language spoken in America is as different to Brits as Mexican is to Spain, any language will evolve in a blink of the historical timeline. Within America, there are 6 primary variants of American, and multiple off shoots of those. Northeast, Southeast, Midwest, Southern (as in Texas/Oklahoma) Western, and Pacific Northwestern being the primary variants. To say there is a “typical American” is to say Brit, Aussie, S.African, Irish, etc are all the same when it comes to language and culture for that matter. Do you see how ludicrous that sounds?
Then there is the visual language of the body. Hand gestures, facial expressions etc. Pretty much the only universal visual sign is the middle finger fuck you, but even that has variants.
Wagging a finger at someone in a gesture of come over here in the states would hardly raise an eyebrow, but it could get you killed in the middle east as a for instance.
What really gets me is the stereo typing involved with your statement. Euro’s complain about Americans, Americans complain about Euro’s being arrogant. Wonder why that is? Maybe a simple fucking explanation would be better than a fuck you.
Contrary to a lot of opinions in America, I’ve meet some really nice people in France, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, Italy, and others. I’ve also meet a lot of assholes.
No one country has a corner on ignorance. England is certainly full of it’s share of arrogant asses who think their way is the only way just like any other country.
There is no one language better than another, as a matter of fact, it could be said that the language identifies with the people and it’s culture on levels most have never considered. Differences in how a given language is pronounced can be attributed to building materials of the time in that rock vs wood planks vs straw vs whatever the hell else the dwellings of the time were built with would reverberate with different tonal values and clarity. Stay around it long enough and it will evolve on its own if for no other reason than the people had to change the pronunciation in order to be understood. Even the difference’s in stone vs adobe Spain vs Mexico can attribute to what is now a significant difference between the two.
To sum it up, how much time have you spent in America that qualifies you to brand what is a “typical” American? I grew up here and cannot do that. so :THE_STFU_
This is typical of you yanks.
Zaxaz787
06-13-2009, 09:18 AM
cmon now...wherever we are is where we are at...suck it up and quit bitching about grass on other side of fence...I am american and enjoy a lifestyle of overkill in all areas of life...my belly is full..my bank accounts are full...I have more cars than I can drive at once...my dick is sore...I work hard and play even harder...I dig greed and excess....so if I live here or fucking Bora Bora it would be the same...prolonged derangement of the senses baby is what its all about...greed...gluttony...drunkenness....perversi on...I am pro these things
RetardedMunkey
06-13-2009, 09:14 PM
America fuck yeah!